The Founder View
Why did you start Dr. Will's? What was the original idea?
The idea came from my business partner Will. His mum was a nursery school teacher, and she was watching parents trying to get their kids to eat their vegetables by covering them in sugary ketchup and barbecue sauce. She kept coming to him and saying, "There must be something healthier." In parallel, my mum is a food writer, so I grew up surrounded by great-tasting food. I was also an athlete, so I was always very conscious of what I was putting in my body.
In the early days, what problem were you trying to solve that the big brands weren’t?
We were seeing much more condiment innovation in the US. People were eating regional barbecue sauces with different flavour profiles, hot sauces with different chilli types and all sorts of funky ingredients. Avocado and olive oil mayo were a thing: seed oil-free condiments that weren't packed with sugar, using dates instead. We married all those things together because we wanted to create something that tasted amazing but didn't compromise on flavour, and that all starts with ingredients. Make condiments with amazing ingredients and they're going to taste great and also be better for you. That was the problem we were trying to solve that the big brands weren't.
It can take years to secure national retail listings. What did that journey actually look like for you?
It took us three years to get into retail. We launched the business in 2017 and got into Tesco and Waitrose at the end of 2020. In that period, we did lots of food service stuff, selling to cafés, delis and indies, building the business in parallel with trying to land a retail listing. There were millions of setbacks, but it gave us time to get things right: to do a rebrand, to make our point of difference clearer, to make our products stand out on shelf. We did loads and loads of work on the product. Actually that was a blessing, because we probably weren't ready in those early days. If we had launched in 2017, I'm not sure we'd have made it work.
When the first large PO came in, what surprised you most about the financial reality of scaling into Tesco, Waitrose and Sainsbury’s?
You're selling much more stuff than you were previously, which feels amazing, but actually that can cause you a bigger problem. I now understand it very intricately, but in the early days it was hard to understand how we were selling more stuff yet our cash was being absorbed more and more, because we had a negative working capital cycle.
At what point did you realise working capital would become as important as brand building?
I realised very early on that it was going to become just as important, particularly in the tricky UK fundraising environment. Working capital management is so, so important. I'm all over it with every founder I talk to now who's scaling into retail, making sure they're on top of it, getting solutions in place, and making sure they understand the working capital impacts.
Many founders default to raising equity to fund retail expansion. What made you think differently?
I think you need to do both. I don't see these kinds of facilities as a substitute for equity. They massively boost it, and that's the way I look at it. You will need to raise some equity to boost cash in the bank, but if you can use some of these facilities to ensure the equity is being used to grow the business (i.e. marketing spend, building out the team, etc.), and use debt or facilities like this to kick in and extend your payment terms with your manufacturer, that essentially makes every bit of money you raise go a lot further. It might be hard to raise a £1m round, but you might be able to raise £500k and then put a couple of facilities in place that get you to a similar position. That's what I would do.
What advice would you give to a food founder who gets that call from a major retailer tomorrow?
The things I'd say are:
- Use that period to get everything right on your brand and the outward-facing stuff. Make your product amazing, both in how you communicate to the consumer and on flavour and your selling points.
- Get your supply chain and back office in place.
- Get your working capital facilities nailed down, so when you launch, you're ready to spend your time on the fun stuff: the sales, the marketing, the growth.
You don't want to be spending your time deep in the cash flow spreadsheet. Unfortunately, you probably will, but you want to limit that as much as possible by getting prepared in advance.